Antiviral
(2012)

[WARNING] Hi! I normally don't do these kinda warnings but I will for this one cos it's a specific phobia that this film might trigger.
This log contains multiple pictures of syringes going into people's skin. [WARNING]



me: i like indie horror movies!
also me: somehow keeps watching nepo baby projects
maybe im not being fair. I'm gonna watch Antiviral, which is by Brandon Cronenberg, who also did Infinity pool which, isn't infinity pool seen as like, a really good movie. I've never seen it
this marks my third cronenberg movie if we mash brandon and his dad together into one category, with my first being Crash and the second being Scanners. gonna keep up my "lets watch Cronenberg movies in an unhinged and non particular order"
idk if I'll liveblog this one much cos. it looks. VERY artsy
and ngl im interested cos it has Caleb Landry Jones as the main character and I liked him a lot in The Last Exorcism and especially Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri
he's the evil ginger in Get Out also btw. but. well. yknow.
canada funded the hell out of this movie
for CULTURE
i figure
CANADIAN CULTURE ART wow those eyebrows are arched up to the heavens ok so were in a clinic where people go related to specific.. idk, idols? on the posters
figure the blonde is hannah geist thanks lady i rly wanted to know that I also REALLY wanted to know that
so what is this like a high end brothel or something ??now hes talking to the MC about this girl? they were like we'll cast the kid with the weird melanin for maximum effect what in the mandela catalogue. liminal space shit
lets tick all the popular horror boxes about 10 years before they become relevant they're selling this woman's illnesses. brandon ur losing me already
some weirdass form of bug chasing i guess
its like im watching crash again but with diseases. he wants her disease in the face, i guess. ok yeah i can see where ur going with this
thats a fucked up concept. but it is interesting
oh what everyone who does the infection giving job is a man? i find that hard to believe for some reason idk none of them look like the infection giving disease type person. except caleb he talks for his landlady for a sec who is watching some news coverage of some other famous person that is one active forehead vein. whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite orange juice! aw man i could go for some orange juice.
hm, probably not when im sick though. that doesnt sound nice u get to have orange white n black in this house n THATS IT yay backstory on his company. lets see what this is all about she asks non questions and Lucas gives non answers so more interestingly: The MC has a hidden compartment in his closet. .,..what is that also the sub at this moment
ok i dont think they'll ever say the MCs name so i just looked it up cos I forgot and its Syd. so i'll stop saying caleb oh hey lucas works directly with the staff. thats a surprise
also that machine makes those weirdass photos they put on the boxes with the celebrity diseases oh that machine somehow restructures the disease into a picture of a face. so that's what that is
the machine also somehow makes the disease noncontagious.
how would you assign a face to a disease.. like what would it highlight in the face to represent the disease..
kind of an interesting idea
even if the execution isn't rly clear to me right now
Moe: I didn't like infinity pool. It was fine, but I hated all the characters and was so exasperated with the main guy. I hope you like this one tho! I haven't seen it
Moe: I'll wait for your ending review to see if I should take a peek
i think ive heard some negative stuff about infinity pool but it was mostly about mia goth screaming a lot i think? Im not sure if it was positive now, maybe i just heard a lot of people talk about it in general haha
god yeah i hope this'll be at least a wortwhile watch. so far im worried cronenberg might just be one of those people imitating their parent :(
BUT I WANT IT TO BE GOOD i like caleb landry jones
i want him to be in good stuff lol
Moe: I think a lot of people liked it! It was well made, but Mia Goth was a bit much for me in that one and it was weird (I hate using such a vague word but I don't remember much about it besides the wtf factor). If you want crazy bitch mia goth go for it lol I liked Possessor by B Cronenberg but I think that might be all I've seen
ah yeh possessor popped up as well when i looked him up, that makes sense
is mia goth in a lot of his work u know? or just happens to be in two movies he did
shes not in this one afaik
Moe: I think just infinity pool, she wasn't in posessor either
oh oops i misread what you said
I loved Mia Goth in Pearl and I'll def watch Maxxxine but Im not really interested in seeing her be crazy and scream a lot if its to the point that it annoys people, I dont have a high threshold for that sort of thing generally so Im quite confident id have a bad time
Moe: She does a very good job, it's just that her job is to be unlikable lol
damn u brandon cronenberg. i blame you apparently the girl who they harvested the herpes from (god what a sentence) is dead and her insides are being sold on a market cos hey why not right
like. to stick on a jar on the mantlepiece, or something. idk what do u do with a celebrity organ. jesus this girl has had some stds. ahh the tradition of talking about gross stuff and then going "oi lads lets get some food"
we see another client with another requested celeb and Syd says the exact same thing about this celeb he said about hannah geist at the start
he also picks up his diseases for the day from this one lady, as do all the other guys who do his job. idk how they decide which diseases to request, wonder if they'll explain that yo if u see these boxes n u gotta pick one to take. which one would you choose
like aside from the whole disease thing. just the box with a mysterious content
yay got a famous persons lurgy or something idk what lurgy is. its what people over here say when they have a cold. it looks like theres a documentary to go along with this film man i just rewatched all of severance and this movie does the same kind of framing
..water u doin he injects himself with something? We saw earlier he is already sick with something
is he like. giving himself all the diseases huh yeah hes making himself sick. interesting
also the shot of the needle going into his arm looked really real, idk if theyve got like, amazing fake skin or they legit just pierced someone's arm [fun fact: they did! the closeup shots of needles going into skin are apparently all real.]
its an art film so i could see it being the latter hell yeah i love being sick eating a sandwich and drinkin some oj ok well that's a little. that seems a little excessive
man they all made for awful looking meat oh ok that makes sense. its done through cell grown meat
jesus christ my first thought was "i could see that happening".
human meat makes you reek though. But i guess if everyones eating it you'll only smell bad to vegetarians.. oh Syd's illegally selling the celeb diseases by infecting himself and selling them on to one of the butchers. oh no
better infect urself again. at work one of syd's coworkers got arrested. presumably for the exact thing syd's doing hm...
oh yeah my manager told me all about flower mutations! and how practically all the tulips at work are not natural.. sort of. oh so thats why the painting of tulips. cos a viral infection caused something we find beautiful and actually cultivate flowers for to achieve lucas tells Syd that the arrested coworker was indeed doing the same thing as him and that they are aware another one of those face machines has gone missing
(yknow)
(the one syd has) oh hannah geist is not dead! i thought she was for some reason. lucas tells syd to go to her i never liked these kind of chairs. those rivety things are so ugly and weird to touch of course they have fuckin licenses on diseases.
the other guy is from some other disease company cos why would there not be a buncha those man this looks like a funeral home
or a. the thing where you have a dead person displayed so people can say goodbye i forgot the english word
wake? WHITE idk if her eyes are covered for disease reasons or if she straight up just doesnt want to see the Lucas person but sheh asnt said a word nor has Syd
idk exactly how taking blood works but it almost looked like he pushed air into her arm cos the syringe wasnt fully "empty" so to speak when he put it in her arm, but maybe that was an oversight
or that is just safe to do and idk those things which is also very possible.
ive had blood taken but i didnt look at it so i dont know rip he immediately infects himself without knowing what shes got
gotta be on top of the market n all ok that wss kind of a weird shot lol this ones better
also not white! look at that.
still very close to his hair colour though. cant have too much variety so yknow thats what he was doing at the beginning! oops now hes sick at work
doing his "ur favourite celeb is perfect" script
do u think getting a disease from a sick guy makes it feel more legit or like. nah nyways he goes home cos hes too sick
its. hardf to tell here that hes not at the office anymore cos both places are equally void of colour
so. just trust me. he is home better harvest now ..is. is that bad? how would we know
its not much of an expression i guess but.. does that mean anything it is a cronenberg child. we gotta have some body horror. yknow. to remind u of who his daddy is.
his mouth is a bloody vent btw. wont screenshot it ART! even more art.
i might put that on a wall.
no i wouldnt its too depressing.
is it like.. he's using his body as a vessel to sell a product so he can keep on living, dehumanizing himself like how the celebs are dehumanized.. sort of
i think. maybe thats it
idk this kinda shit always needs some extra time to think about after u finish the movie not half a minute after it entered ur brain as David Lynch once said. Rest in peace man. woulda been his birthday today
i always liked that we were birthday neighbours. he passed out on the floor but instead of getting medical help he goes to the machine to assess what the disease looks like now i think he just accidentally broke the machine and the blood sample from the day before looks fucked up as does his arm oh man did the lil fridge next to his bed break too? thats some major bad luck
yknow, next to the possibly deadly disease he infected himself with.
cos we dont know what tf it is right now
oh
OH!
CATHOLICISM
i get it now. he seems slightly better but maybe not.
hes not passed out i guess. landlady watching some more papparazi tv oops shes dead. oops thats what you gave yourself. oh look its herpes boy!
from the start of the movie
i was gonna say wouldnt people who got infected just sell it on to other people but i just remembered they pointed out Lucas makes the diseases non infectuous
they capitalised on diseases. [l]
[layers]
[get it]
[hehe] Syd's back with Arving, the butcher, who talks about how they are cultivating cancer cells from a starlet who died back in the 50s ok so no one knows yet what this hannah lady had so Syd now has a disease he doesnt know the cure to. Just that Hannah died after a week of having it yknow, the illness syd gave himself, thats deadly
arving wants it
i guess syd could sell it to him but whatre u gonna do with that one week left. Well. maybe get top doctors. get sued out the ass by Lucas but hey if u live u live
even tho this seems a pretty shit world arving just say oi syd i fuckin know u infected urself im not stupid oh i feel so aligned with the pirates i wonder why.
cultivating illegal celeb meat or pirating movies whats the difference reallyyyyy its like a cigarette except its a thermometer. theres this reoccuring shot of Syd standin in line with his coworkers to pick up his celeb disease coffers for the day
they gossip and shit. Glasses calls Syd a kid.
I wonder
jesus. hes only 35 now.
that made him...
23 when this movie was made. yeah ok i'd call that kid too thats fair
idk if any of u get this experience but you see an actor youve seen before and you look them up and find out damn, theyre so much closer in age to you than you thought the top news is hannah's mysterious death and some other starlets asshole cos everywhere is TMZ and the daily mail and everywhere is gross.
celebs arent people theyre a mass hallucination or whatever the movie said at the beginning um.
did. did u get a dog mind reader or something. siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick
(his last name is march) BLACK
AND ALSO WHITE
JUST. less white. lil white oh nooo the hannah cell meat is all fucked
and now the chef who cooks up her cell meat is all upset and stuff hi im super sick n im gonna stand real close to u strange man who will fix my computer cos were art actors in an indie film and indie actors like to make other indie actors taste their fuckin breath as they say their lines
just. a thing i noticed.
i mean brandon's a cronenberg but i figure that still counts. i hadnt heard of this film until someone made a gifset on tumblr, so. theyre in some underground place related to bodies somehow to fix Syds computer?
tho i think the computer guy did say he had to go somewhere first so. I guess this is that
>computer guy
thats the fuckin butcher.
god im so bad at recognising faces sometimes.
guess Syd had slightly more reason to stand so close to Arving cos they know each other hey looks like trhe black lodge am i right guys hahahhaha
didnt think id be bringing up david lynch twice but here we are. oops lemme get u another quote of his i like he said a lot of interesting shit i keep thinkin about sometimes
maybe not today, but it will. Keep that thought close uhhhhh
this is whos behind that curtain
guess.. celebs were also selling some "POV: you abducted me and i plead with you" videos? lemme just lean and look ominous and stuff damn even for a dead person huh.
then again theyve got the cells of someone who died in the 50s.
wonder if they'll show why anyone would want to be famous in this world this is Levine who i guess also sells the disease. I think the man in the ugly chair scene works for him? hes willing to fix Syd's chair, or give him the part, at least, i think
oh wait hes a pirate so he's obviously not corpo. hes like i think what i do is slightly better than Lucas because i think what i do has a purpose in some way at least
and then he says this line cos dignity is dead and we're cloning it to sell at the butcher shop woo new computer!
the competitor is called Vole and Tesser, thats who rivetchair man worked for.
idk if itll come up again but yknow, just in case. damn calm down Levine i didnt consent to the bedroom eyes he doesnt have the part Syd needs but says he can get one in a week
which. remember. isnt enough time
arving promised Levine a copy of Syd's disease as payment for the part which Syd obviously doesnt want to give cos its the whole reason he has the machine, is super sick and might die within a week and if he gives it to Levine his blood will be worthless to him. but they force him. i am. i hate you. aqlso tell this woman next to me to stop drinking beers so casually this is serious. arving tells Syd he pretty much brought him to Levine cos hes upset Syd wouldnt give him Hannah's illness so now he's taking it by force by giving it to Levine. Then he's like hey I'll get you healed up dont worry. You just hurt my feelings
like some druglord shit yeah that
they even take the rash
its like hes being harvested good god
i mean he is theres no other word for it and then they left him on the side of the road cos arving is just that good of a friend ok weird question but for any of u who have a partner who sleeps with you. Someone just told Syd that they touch their wife to make sure she's still alive when they go to bed. I know that sounds dark but, I do that to jack all the time when I wake up, just to be safe. We're both really silent sleepers who don't move much in our sleep so it might just be that but. this is not weird to me hes in a diner and these two guys just. kind of abduct him.
got a valuable disease n all mysterious forest roadddd feeling baaaaad
i kinda hope he makes everyone around him sick. he didnt make the disease to not be able to infect everyone, after all malcolm mcdowell everyone!!! hes assessing Syd's disease.
oh no we as a viewer, might not know, what is real, and what is not real, after and possibly even before, this point
ohmygod its already begun. ? malcolm explains the disease destroyed Syds machine on purpose?? yknow as opposed to this whole world in general.
man why have ur hair that long if ur always gonna tie it back.
unless he was planning to grow it out to sell i guess but i feel like im being generous with that interpretation oh shit shes not dead.
they explain to syd the death story is fake but she is dying and they dont have a cure angry or sick probably both
u did this to urself tho buddy cmon
when arving stole ur blood u could be angry i get it but this is just ur own doing really her disease isnt natural and they think its an assassination attempt
idk why tf in this world theyd want to assassinate some randomass starlet theyre like if u infiltrate Lucas we might find a cure for hannah. oh and also you hee hee oops theres more people involved in this plot than i thought htere would be oh well, thats. nice jeez don't get too unsubtle, you might turn this into a disney+ movie.
then hes like i dont believe in god yet i believe i derive some strength and power from these skin grafts. but why not its like dying bonded with a celebrity!!!!! he gives him some pills so i guess we'll get a bit longer with Syd at least
more time for hallucinations no more than 40 minutes though. oh the entrance to his apartment has a ton of red flowers in it btw is that.. red hydrangeas???
teach me this power
idc how sick the plant i need those
the red hydrangeas tell me those are all sick plants cultivated for their sick beauty
tho to be fair there was a tulip for those who only had the tulip scene to go by too.
oh this is where Hannah is sleeping, its not his apartment. that makes more sense. oh no! blood from the mouth. hannah warned him woo more thermometer smoking ominous window staring!! we havent seen that in a minute hes back at work
thanks coworker im so glad thats why u talk to me oh hes inquiring about the disease that Hannah's is a mutation of, of course. And surprise the person who took it is the coworker who got arrested! daaamn revenge!! shouldve heeded that expression arving ohoho oh ok sorry i didnt mean to spook you. Syd asks Arving about Derek since Arving told him Derek also sold him disease samples from time to time unfortunately its not hard to overpower someone who is sick as a dog. Levine is apparently angry that Syd's blood fried his computer when, yknow, thats the whole reason Syd came to see him
is.. Derek working to kill the celeb disease industry? god damn. that did not work out for Syd.
aw he just dropped it on him. i thought he was gonna reinject the blood.
i mean if its ur own blood its not gonna kill you right
feels like a good threat cos itd hurt
but yeah he doesnt do that ah syd broke into dereks apartment looks like derek also put the computer in his closet ooh its the disease sample! cos from what i understood they have to put these into their fridges to make new samples hes hiding cos someone broke into the aparment after him and damn they somehow made the only light be caught in his eyes
maybe my screen is just hella dark i was impressed by that otl
damn on my other screen u can see more
oh well he just kinda stares down the other person as he leaves his landlady of course saw the whole funeral live on tv cos hannah is special shes so fucking special
wait is hannah called Geist cos its german for ghost. that'd be a bit lazy
well. maybe not to english speakers. but it seems pretty obvious just from how similar they sound even if u dont speak german, right he got a new part for his pc from Hannah's cronies so hes gonna use the computer to try n analyze derek's sample derek why does ur disease computer talk to u after that it does just show disease faces though
thought the disease was sentient for a second ngl yeah so derek was fucking with the disease to change it. VT is the other company, not the one derek and syd worked for
very evil, very uncorporate he collapses. very sick
how long does he have we just do not know hes still talking to malcolm mcdowell, yknow, hannahs doctor. Hes supposed to be german in this but he just speaks with the most generic Proper English Accent (tm) ever in this
no hate to him i like malcolm mcdowell he just doesnt sound german is all the doctor tells him that Vole and Tesser claimed patent over the disease thats killing him and Hannah.
they dont know why yet though, cos if its deadly that's strange still there. still sick
theres some synth playing over her sick body
ive seen synth be used for hospital and sickness scenes in a lot of movies
disease is natural. but somehow unnatural music seems to fit. its unnerving
its a genetically manipulated disease, i suppose
he smells her blood then tries to touch her face with a very shaky hand she is not dead. she grabs his hand
i think he was just trying to feel her breath, like that one guy in the diner said then she throws up blood and Syds lookin like Ivan the Terrible in that painting where he clubbed his son to death
you know the one he walks into another room and then these guys appear ✨ liminal aesthetic ✨
i know liminal spaces dont generally have giant pictures of faces in them
maybe they should. as a new development. yknow
spice it up a little. Levine is talking to him. Did Hannah's people give him to Levine? Levine talks about Hannah being dead which would indicate he doesnt know her true status.
did they dump Syd? wow capitalize huh alright. Levine explains theyre filming Syds illness to give Hannah's fans a look into what her final hours looked like. haha this shot
i mean its a wide shot that fits with the rest of the film but his lil face in the bottom tee hee hee dude same beat them to death syd i know u dont have the physical strength but i believe in you!!! use the bedframe or something those two sentences dont go together
dont lie to yourself do u think they cast him cos hes really good at looking angry with the entire planet. oh no hes bleeding from the mouth, just like Hannah said. dude dont play with it. hehehehe u have mustache now admiring his work
or just delirious. but i like to think its the former he seems rather mesmerised by the whole bleeding from the mouth thing oh no hes hallucinating hannah. it begins
or maybe its been happening for a while. this. is kinda pretty to me
like in an ophelia sort of way. if that makes sense fuck u and the horse u rode in on Levine talks some random shit to Syd as he gets drunk next to his sick body
hes talking about virus penetration. that its sexual. stupid shit stop lying ffs give him that dignity at least cmon syd cmon cmon BAM ah fuck hes too weak.
but maybe he got his blood in his mouth???
ohmygod he was holding a syringe and he stuck it in Levine's mouth
hell yeah ruuuun
idk where but ruuuuuuun whiiiiiiiiiiiiiite he stumbles into a room with pamphlets advertising hannah's deadly disease
that theyve been taking from syd the facility they kept him in is the same building as where they give the diseases to customers. wow
he stumbled into the waiting room like Lucas Tesser is a person and Syd demanded to speak with her. Which she refused to do in person, and Syd is okay with that
i wouldnt be. Jam ur diseased hand in her mouth dammit take em down with u
u might be a disease pirate but ur small fry they deserve it ah its a videocall
they just showed Hannah for a bit there shes like haha yesss we did infect hannah through a loophole in her contract with you
syds talking this shit so hes not as chaotic as id hoped it seems ok well thats still his main goal. i mean no gains if ur dead right
shes like well were not responsible and hes like i have something to barter omg shes there in person done with the entire galaxy at this point
they also sort of accidentally killed Hannah with their new disease. That wasnt their intent. But Tesser just went "oops! you'll hear from our lawyers :) " he talks business to her
innovation is such a dirty word ugh where are u taking this what did you do
oh they glitch the fuck out of her saying this line about never growing up btw her "afterlife" is the disease that killed her. they put it inside of a machine for people to gawk at. Like cultivating a disease in a flower. It's something the butcher was working on, and I guess Syd is showing Tesser in an attempt to save his own life.
more body horror i wont screenshot, I was hoping it'd not go ham on the bodyhorror cos cmon brandon that's your dads thing. oh look at you u got a promotion. oh its stakeholders. money money money money
Syd looks healthy again so I guess they found a cure greeeeeeeeeeeeeen
then we see syd drink blood from the machine like some kind of vampire.
and hannahs body is inside but thats not really surprising. the end
I. frankly really like the concept
I love how grotesque it is
I need some time to think about some of the scenes, but I'm definitely glad I watched that
ok its been a few days i really liked that movie. id recommend it if you like quieter slow burn horror movies